It’s rear when Jay-Z does interviews but over the weekend, the Hip-Hop veteran sat down with CNN’s Van Jones for the premiere episode of The Van Jones Show.

The 4:44 emcee offered his thoughts on a wide range of topics from President Trump’s recent “sh*thole countries” comments, to the #MeToo movement, marriage, fatherhood and much more.

“It is disappointing and it’s hurtful,” Jay-Z said of Trump’s infamous comments regarding immigrants from countries such as Haiti. “Everyone feels anger, but after the anger, it’s real hurtful. Because it’s looking down at a whole population of people, and it’s so misinformed, because these places have beautiful people and beautiful everything. This is the leader of the free world speaking like this…somewhere along his lineage something happened to him. Something happened to him, and he is expressing it in this sort of way.”

Jones asked HOV about his thoughts on Trump’s actions during his presidency, particularly as they pertain to African Americans and “dropping black unemployment.” Jones then asked Jay-Z if those actions made Trump a good leader. “No, because it’s not about money at the end of the day,” the rapper responded. “Money doesn’t equate to happiness. It doesn’t. That’s missing the whole point. You treat people like human beings. That’s the main point.”

Watch Jay-Z 11-minute interview with CNN’s Van Jones below.