You’ve been touring with Steve Aoki. How is it going?
Waka Flocka Flame: It’s like Nino Brown walking into church wanting to be a pastor. A totally different world. This some shit a kid from the ghetto would never understand. But they’ll want to understand it, because they want to know shit like that exists. It’s partying on another level. People think you’re just doing drugs and OD’in–hell no. That whole movement is about peace.

Really?
Peace, love, and unity. No negativity. It’s just love and unity shit. We give each other a bead, like this [makes half a heart shape with his hand]. Make a heart sign with hands to exchange beads.

So would you say the movement’s like a religion?
Basically, it’s a cult.

How did you transition into this cult-like world?
Because I’m a party god. This shit is partying. I love all experiences of all parties. That’s just how I get down. I’ma be one of them grandparents that’s just partying.

Just hopping around, dancing and everything?
Gotta be. [The EDM world] was nothing different. I felt like it was compatible [to me]. [Sings] “It’s party, it’s a party!” Same shit. Aint no differentce.

There’s gotta be some differences. Think of one.
Demographic. You know what I’m saying? You don’t see a lot of blacks, you see a lot of–I can’t even say you don’t see black because it’s hella black people at a rave. I can’t even say that. Ain’t no difference. It’s just the beat. They just don’t got a lot of vocals. Mostly instrumentals, mostly my vocal because I come from that life.

How’d you initially link up with Steve?
I met Steve because we both signed to William Morris agency group. And I was telling William like, ‘Yo, let me jump on the EDM tour.’ Hip-hop is too serious. That ain’t what it’s supposed to be.

You still have rappers like 2 Chainz making fun records, or Future. Theres’s still some fun left in hip-hop.
But it’s immature. You follow me? I’m 27. I can’t be making no music like, ‘Scrippers, slutty, scripper, scripper.’ Like, come on my nigga. I got a daughter. You feel me? I’m grown. Jay Z, he was clever because he grew up and became a f-cking man. That’s why Jay Z separated from all the other men, because he upped his game as a man. Not as a lyricist, none of what they want to call him, as a man. Like, these niggas ain’t no men, they ain’t men. They ain’t no role models because they ain’t men.

So moving into the EDM space is growth for you not only professionally but personally?
Growth. Gross and growth. Double G’s. More then these niggas that’s out here and they hot.

What was that first conversation like with Steve?
Steve was just like, ‘Yo man, your shit is live.’ He told me this is the best hip-hop collaboration tour ever. He cool as shit, that’s my boy. Cool as fuck.

What do you do on your downtime?
Steve got like some CrossFit training, like jumping ropes and all kind of crazy shit. I aint’ ‘bout that life, I aint’ ready. We eat good on the road though. We eat a lot of baked shit, so we good. We good on the road.

What were some of your favorite cities in Europe?
I don’t know, honestly. I’ll say after my next go-round, because I was a tourist, literally. I was in Rome at the cathedrals, the f-cking Coliseum–I was a fan. That was my first time touring Europe. It wasn’t about women, it wasn’t about the partying. I was literally riding bicycles through the streets. What’s amazing is them [Ancient Standing Stones] out there. Been there for thousands of years, but that shit look like somebody just put it up yesterday. Like, it amazes you. Just makes you think further than what you read or what you seen in a book in school. Like, [people] hid that from me. That’s wrong. Like a lot of shit y’all taught me as a kid was wrong.