Kendrick Lamar and Nigel Sylvester may represent different industries but in the essence of hard work, dedication and success their stories are relatively the same. The two stars linked up in Puerto Rico at the Bacardi Triangle where they traded stories about bikes and the stage.

“It’s kind of like with anything else man, you have a dream and I kind’ve seen dudes on TV and in my neighborhood riding and what not. I was like ok I want to do it but I want to do it my own way,” Nigel said.

Taking turns interviewing each other, K. Dot boiled down the keys to much of their collective successes to being “work ethic.”

“I got caught up in the world of trying to make a radio song,” Kendrick explained as being one of his major setbacks. “The more and more I started focusing on artists that embodied more than just hit songs here and there I actually started developing myself to a whole other level.”

Watch the back-and-fourth exchange above.